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Nov 11, 2019  The BJ was decent - better rules than the Vegas strip, but not as good as. $1 Blackjack is a fun idea, but with a $0.25 player payment every hand, the.GamingView all Jobs at Mystic Lake Casino Hotel and SMSC.Blackjack, also known as Twenty-One, is one of the most popular table games. Minnesota’s largest casino only 25 minutes from Mall of America® with slots, blackjack, bingo, luxury hotel, entertainment, best of Twin Cities restaurants and bars, bus service, meetings and events. More At Mystic Lake Casino. Free Shuttle Bus. Get glowing with stops in.

Hi,
I'll be visiting MSP area soon. I usually play Pai-gow poker, utlimate texas holdem poker, missisippi stud, stud poker and craps. I would like to know:
Does these casino offer these games and if so, what are the limits:
1) Little six
2) Mystix Lake
3) Turtle lake WI
If you know any other good casino nearby, please mention so.. I assume all of them offer craps and pai gow poker, I am more interested in the ones offering other games as well.
Thank you for your help..

Pretty much the only live table game allowed in MN/WI is black jack. No roullette, no craps, no carnival games. Just slots, VP, BJ. Something to do with games of skill vs games of chance.

Pretty much the only live table game allowed in MN/WI is black jack. No roullette, no craps, no carnival games. Just slots, VP, BJ. Something to do with games of skill vs games of chance.

There's craps in WI. Roulette, too. Just ask Ken...;-)
Mystic Lake is my home casino. It's very nice, but all they have is blackjack. Other large MN casinos offer other games like let it ride and 3 card poker(Grand Casino in Hinckley and Mille Lacs, Jackpot Junction in Morton, Treasure Island in Red Wing). Treasure island runs a player pool on all of their carnival games, and they post a sign with the approximate size of the player pool. I think the other casinos do as well.
The MN card clubs (Canterbury, Running Aces) have slightly different rules. The player pool there banks the progressive jackpots on the carnival games (and all smaller payouts as well). MN must be home to some superstitious fools, because the progressive jackpots receive frequent play, even at low levels. That is very nice for me, since I only play when they swing the game's expectation to be net-positive.

' If the remaining pack is rich when the cut comes out, you're going to know exactly where they are right after a shuffle. '
LOL

I shouldn't have said exactly, you're never gonna know exactly. But you'll definetly know when to place your large bets.What makes you think this is a good game? Mystic Lake has the same rules, but offers surrender. Prairie's Edge has S17 with the rest of the rules the same. I wouldn't even have to leave southern MN to find a game with better rules.

Hey everybody, I'm a dealer at the original Treasure Island located in Red Wing, MN. Recently we've had some rules changes that make this easily one of the best, if not the best place to count in the midwest, if not the country.
We offer 8, 6, 4, and 2 deck games. Though the 2 deck is on and off, we dont always have it. Our rules are pretty standard, split up to 3 times (except the double deck), doubles after splits, hit soft seventeen. The double deck you can't resplit aces, which isn't really a significant blow anyway. Limits on the floor during the week are $5-$199 on the six deck, $10-$199 on four, and $3-$100 on eight. High stakes limits $25-$500, sometimes $50-$500 and they've got 6 and 4 decks in there.
Penetration is very good. A deck on all 8, 6, and 4 deck games are a deck cut and alot of dealers go deeper. Double deck is a half deck.
Recently managment made a BIG mistake by deciding that they were no longer going to put the cut off cards before the shuffle in 3 different places. THEY ALL GO ON TOP OF THE DISCARD.
This is a VERY lucrative opportunity for people that know blackjack. If the remaining pack is rich when the cut comes out, you're going to know exactly where they are right after a shuffle. A player can cut as few cards as a half a deck. So if you cut it in the back, you just gotta play half a deck in order to bet on the rich deck of cards coming right after it.
As far as casino personel goes, most of our floors are absolutely clueless to a counter. I've never been to a casino where keeping an eye out for counters was a lower priority. This goes double for the swing shift staff, this is where all the new floors go. The most knowledgable group of floormen exsists on graves, I would avoid that shift. Not because they are overly good at catching counters, but because the other two shifts are so bad.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If anybody has any questions i'll be more than happy to answer them.
I dont know whose idea it was..... There is no benefit to the casino except for the extra 5-10 seconds gained by not slugging the cards in different places. Get in on this while it lasts boys, because it surely wont last long.

I'll be generous and call these rules mediocre at best, especially with the low table max. No counter is going to play a 6 deck $50 game and be limited to a 1-10 spread.
Since you spilled most of the beans already, please describe your shuffle in detail.

I'll be generous and call these rules mediocre at best, especially with the low table max.

Can get the same rules with the same hand-shuffle at Diamond Jo in Worth County, IA, but @ $25-$1,000 and no heat. Or better rules @ $25-500 (sometimes $1000) at Mystic Lake in Shakopee, machine shuffled. Or $5-$200 w/S17 at Prairie's Edge in Granite Falls. They're so friendly out there, you could destroy that game if you could count and talk at the same time. but what's the point of taking a $5 game apart.
In MN, you'll have the supervisor staring at the table (but usually not catching on). In IA, you'll have almost no attention at all. They're so paranoid about dealer errors on the carnival games, they just sort of let the BJ games go unwatched. It's still hardly worth playing, but it's as loose as you can get within driving distance of Minneapolis.

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I've seen alot of people kicked out of Mystic and only one kicked from TI.

Same here. Which is funny for (at least) three reasons:

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1. Mystic Lake is a dry casino, while TI offers and comps alcohol for players.
2. (maybe 1.a.) Most of the backoffs I've seen have been for jackassery and not counting or holecarding.
3. Over the years, I've gotten away with a LOT at Mystic. In 12 years of play, I've been asked 1 time if I was counting cards. I answered 'yes, there are 312 of them,' and that was the end of that. No shuffle, no flat bet, no warning - and they let my table max bet stand.

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